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Primer MOnkey
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 Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 11:34 pm Post subject: Who is the intended audience of the narrator? |
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Did anyone figure this out, or come up with a theory that works for who it is that hooded Aaron calls?
the other thing i don't understand, is how does hooded Aaron know about Abe's use of the failsafe?
And what prompts him to come back after he druggs the original Aaron and goes through the timeline for a second time? |
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pedro2112
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| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 9:02 am Post subject: Re: Who is the intended audience of the narrator? |
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| Primer MOnkey wrote: | Did anyone figure this out, or come up with a theory that works for who it is that hooded Aaron calls?
the other thing i don't understand, is how does hooded Aaron know about Abe's use of the failsafe?
And what prompts him to come back after he druggs the original Aaron and goes through the timeline for a second time? |
Wow, you've been on this board for only a couple of days, yet you ask the three questions that have no definite answers. I think that's a sign of someone who "gets it."
If you do a search, you'll find that there is no consensus on your first question (many believe it's the drugged Aaron, other's believe it is either Abe or Granger); the second question has no definite answer. The best explanation I've heard is that after it is all said and done, Aaron2 comes back and has a conversation with Aaron3.
The third question also has no definitive answer, although the narration suggests that it was to perfect the party.
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jimmyolsenblues
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| Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 10:44 am Post subject: Who is the intended audience of the narrator? |
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| I believe Arron3 is calling Arron, everytime Arron picks up the phone. |
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Primer MOnkey
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| Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: Who is the intended audience of the narrator? |
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| jimmyolsenblues wrote: | | I believe Arron3 is calling Arron, everytime Arron picks up the phone. |
I'm not sure what you mean.
Aaron 3 defined as hooded Aaron, the narrator, right?
which version of Aaron is "Aaron" |
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jimmyolsenblues
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| Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:42 am Post subject: who is other the other end of the call |
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I am sorry about not knowing which arron is calling or which arron is picking up the phone.
But I believe at the beginning of the movie Arron says, don't talk just listen, like he is making a phone call to someone and reading a script.
I believe Arron is upseting his own time line by trying to reach himself.
Like he answers and "pretends" its his wife , when in reality he is getting a call from clone giving him the script of the narrator. |
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RachelGranger
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| Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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I think the narrator is calling Abe. I get the sense that he feels like he owes him something in return for creating the machine or the loss of their friendship.
Just my thoughts. |
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Primer MOnkey
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| Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| RachelGranger wrote: | I think the narrator is calling Abe. I get the sense that he feels like he owes him something in return for creating the machine or the loss of their friendship.
Just my thoughts. |
as opposed to telling the aaron who he locked in the attic? would the idea be to explain to him why he shouldn't use the machines, not sure i follow... abe goes through all those experiences and comes to the conclusion that the machines should not be used, and that the aaron clone needs to go be sneaky somewhere else. |
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redaer
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It's pretty clear to me that Aaron 2 is calling Aaron 1 while Aaron 3 is in France building a bigger box.
The movie is about the nature of trust between the two men and by the end, Aaron is doing whatever necessary to 1-up Abe. Calling himself means his primary double (Aaron 1) will always have more power than Abe 1.
It's the last step in the destruction of the friendship as well as the theme of the movie, in that not only is Aaron 2 not drugging himself to keep things from becoming a mess, he's now actively alerting himself to what's coming ahead. |
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jimmyolsenblues
Joined: 03 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:38 am Post subject: I agree it was Arron2 calling Arron1 |
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i agree it was aaron 2 calling 1, because the narrator refers to arron 3 by "he", if you are calling someone you don't call them he.
896 “He wasn't expecting me to put up a fight.”
897 “And by that time he [Arron3 is too tired, Arron3 is more tired then Arron2]was too exhausted to take me.”
898 “But for reasons that are only evident to me now...”
899 “I understood that he simply wanted it more.”
900 “That he just had more invested. So I left.”
901 “He[Arron3] had already performed the task as I[Arron2] had intended to...”
902 “of recording the conversations of the day just in case.”
903 “Through that earpiece he had a three-second lead on the world.”
You know I saw Casino Royal sunday it was made for 130 million and primer is still a better movie. Shane is the best. |
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manofredearth
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| RachelGranger wrote: | I think the narrator is calling Abe. I get the sense that he feels like he owes him something in return for creating the machine or the loss of their friendship.
Just my thoughts. |
This would be easier to believe if the narrator had not referred to Abe in the third person rather than as "you". Instead, the caller says things like, "Abe (did this or that...)"
Is there any chance that he's talking to Aaron's wife and "wanting it more" refers to the marriage? Or is the one who wants it more the same one who ditches the marriage for a foreign country? |
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